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New York, USA |
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Lyons, Wayne County, New York, USA |
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1883 |
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New York, USA |
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1964 |
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Lyons, Wayne County, New York, USA |
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| 6. Philipp Ludwig Helbert |
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5 Mar 1845 |
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Vorderweidenthal, Pfalz, Bayern |
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26 Nov 1867 |
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Niederschlettenbach, Pfalz, Bayern |
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25 Jul 1902 |
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Junius, Seneca County, New York, USA |
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24 Jun 1849 |
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Lauterschwan, Pfalz, Bayern |
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28 Sep 1920 |
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Lyons, Wayne County, New York, USA |
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| 14. Peter Ottenat |
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7 Aug 1822 |
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Lauterschwan, Pfalz, Bayern |
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28 May 1844 |
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Lauterschwan, Pfalz, Bayern |
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20 Mar 1864 |
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Lauterschwan, Pfalz, Bayern |
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| 15. Katharina Reinig |
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1824 |
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Erlenbach bei Dahn, Pfalz, Bayern |
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Lauterschwan, Pfalz, Bayern |
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1905 - 1963 (58 years)