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- [S8] Information from an informant - Auskunft eines Informanten - Information d'un informateur.
Proposed Change: Johannes Georg Ehrhardt (I6643)
Tree: Südpfalz / Southern Palatinate
Link: http://www.birkenhoerdt.net/getperson.php?personID=I6643&tree=Suedpfalz
Description: Hallo,
die v.g. hatten folgende Kinder: 1)Katharina Ehrhardt verh. mit Jakob Roth, deren Kinder: a) Katharina Ehrhardt (lediges Kind der Mutter geb. 1899) b) Julius Erhardt geb. 24.5.1905 (ebenfalls lediges Kind der Mutter), c) Anna Maria Roth geb. 13.12.1907,d) Philippine Roth geb. 30.11.1908, e) Oskar Roth geb. 20.1.1912, f) Josef Roth und g) Dominik Roth.
2) Margarethe Ehrhardt verh. mit Andreas Hirsch. Deren Kinder: a)Anna Hirsch verh. mit Werner Ludewig, b) Agnes Hirsch, c) Sofie Hirsch verh. mit August Flesch, d)Emil Hirsch e)Alois Hirsch und f) Emilie Hirsch verh. Engelmann. 3) Als Kind kommt jetzt die Nr.8969 und deren Abkömmlinge. In einer weiteren EMail geht es mit der Nr. 4) weiter.
Engel Berthold
- [S8] Information from an informant - Auskunft eines Informanten - Information d'un informateur.
Hi Ursula,
Thank you so much for your speedy reply to my message about the
Birkenhoerdt Project. I’m delighted to hear from you and that we are
related on both my grandmother’s and grandfather’s side. That is beyond
my wildest imaginings.
I’m a total amateur when it comes to genealogy. In fact, I haven’t even
charted my ancestors on my father’s side as found in my copy of my aunt
Sophie’s Ahnenpass. When I’ve read through it in the past I only managed
to remember some of the more common female first names in the family –
names like Anna Maria, Katharina, and Margaretha (Margaretha or Margarete
is my second name, after my grandmother). Before I can contribute
anything, I am going to have to decipher and chart what I have to get it
into a coherent order. If you can be patient a little longer, I will make
that one of my upcoming projects and will forward the information to you
for the Project. Meanwhile, I could give you the names and birthdates and
birthplaces of my siblings and myself, and my own children and
grandchildren (my siblings do not have any children), if that is of
interest to you.
My oldest sister is Maria Elisabeth Glasswick, nee Hirsch, born September
14, 1944, in Edesheim, Pfalz.
I am Christina Margarete Ward, nee Hirsch, born August 9, 1946, in
Bergzabern (now Bad Bergzabern), Pfalz.
My youngest sister is Dorothea Luise Schultz, nee Hirsch, born February
19, 1949, in Bergzabern, Pfalz.
All 3 of us are the children of Emil and Maria Katharina Hirsch, nee
Habermehl and, as you already know, Emil Hirsch was the son of Andreas and
Margaretha Hirsch, nee Ehrhardt. It looks like Andreas was the son of
Andreas and Maria Anna Hirsch, nee Lang and he was born May 15th, 1880 in
Blankenborn, and Margaretha, his wife was born February 1, 1883 in
Birkenhoerdt. I don’t know when they moved to Bergzabern but my father’s
siblings were born in the following places:
Anna Ehrhardt, Landau, July 3, 1909
Agnes Anna Hirsch, Birkenhoerdt, January 20, 1912
Walter Hirsch, Birkenhoerdt, March 29, 1913
(Emil Hirsch, Birkenhoerdt, March 7, 1915)
Sophie Hirsch, Birkenhoerdt, February 23, 1916
Alois Hirsch, Birkenhoerdt, October 20, 1917
Emma Emilie Hirsch, Bergzabern, January 12, 1924
I could give you the occupations of several of these 7 siblings, as it’s
given in the Ahnenbuch and in a letter from Sophie, if you wanted. There
was also a sibling who died in infancy but I don’t have the particulars on
that. His name may have been Hermann, but I can’t say for certain. I’m
not certain either if any of the siblings are still alive today. I know
that Anna, Emil, Sophie and Alois are dead though.
You mention that it seems that my grandfather did not serve in the army
during the First World War. I think it was because of his poor vision,
that he may have been rejected but I have no proof to support that, just
that I heard that his vision was pretty poor when I was growing up. What
you write of not being able to find a military record seems to support
that somewhat.
Please let me know what information you are looking for and I will
meanwhile try to decipher and chart anything on the paternal side of my
father’s family that is in this Ahnenpass and get that information to you.
Is there any way I can see more than just the information I found on your
website for Alois Hirsch, like how you and I are related, for example?
I’m not the most computer savvy person around, so if it was on the website
and I didn’t see it, I apologize for my oversight in advance.
Thank you again for your warm and prompt reply. As I said above, I was
absolutely delighted to hear from you. I will do anything I can to assist
you with your project with the information I have. Thank you for all the
work you have already done on this project. It’s amazing.
With warm wishes,
Chris
Chris Ward
- [S8] Information from an informant - Auskunft eines Informanten - Information d'un informateur.
Proposed Change: Emma Emilie Hirsch (I140254)
Tree: Südpfalz / Southern Palatinate
Link: http://www.birkenhoerdt.net/getperson.php?personID=I140254&tree=Suedpfalz
Description: Tante Emilie (that was her given name, rather than her first name, Emma), was born January 12, 1924. She did marry someone named Engelmann and lived in Kronberg. She had 2 daughters, one named Sigrid and I don't remember the other's name.
She was also a "Krankenschwester" according to Tante Sophie's letter.
Chris
Christina Margarete Hirsch Ward
Christina Margarete Hirsch Ward
- [S8] Information from an informant - Auskunft eines Informanten - Information d'un informateur.
Vorgeschlagene Änderung: Emma Emilie Hirsch (I140254)
Stammbaum: Suedpfalz
Link: http://www.birkenhoerdt.net/getperson.php?personID=I140254&tree=1
Beschreibung: Emilie Engelmann, gestorben 12.03.2012
Sigrid Engelmann
- [S8] Information from an informant - Auskunft eines Informanten - Information d'un informateur.
Proposed Change: Andreas Hirsch (I282439)
Tree: Südpfalz / Southern Palatinate
Link: http://www.birkenhoerdt.net/getperson.php?personID=I282439&tree=Suedpfalz
Description: Andreas and Margarethe were married on July 7, 1911 (Standesamtlich).
Andreas' date of birth was May 15, 1880, in Blankenborn.
Andreas's baptism date was May 19, 1880, in Blankenborn.
Andreas died in Bergzabern on what looks like either January or June 20, 1933 (according to my father's notes).
Margaretha's birth is shown as February 3, 1883 and her baptism as February 8, 1883, in Birkenhoerdt.
She died on May 5, 1939, in Bergzabern (I believe, as that is where they were living). This is according to my father's notes.
Photograph of above two entries in Tante Sophie's Ahnenbuch to follow by separate post.
Chris
Christina Margarete Hirsch Ward
Christina Margarete Hirsch Ward
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